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whilst i was at drama school, i managed to take advantage of the qualified professional vocal coaches and experts in breathing techniques that were available to me at the time, to make some study into the biology of what metal vocals are.
in detail, the main system used for metal vocals (lower in the death metal style, and higher in the black metal style) is a constriction, or almost complete coverage, of the false vocal folds during sound being created by the true vocal folds.
i've also managed to teach various people (including non metallers, who were interested) how to reach the point of decent volume and clarity (per se) of voice / sound.
i've had a listen to your track and it appears to be that you're basing your vocal sound on a low volume, breathy approach. whilst i can understand why you'd try that, as it works in a closed environment and sounds similar to the original article you'll hear on record, it's not actually how most do it.
if you can, get yourself somewhere that you can shout and not be interrupted or be in danger of annoying someone. first, make a clean note sound through the “ahhhh” vowel, like you would a normal tone for speech, then stop the note by making the feeling in your throat similar to coughing.
go over this several times and become familiar with the sensation.
then, do the same, but louder. almost to the point of shouting.
as you get louder, you'll hopefully find it harder and harder to stop the note immediately with the throat's action (the false vocal folds). start listening for a slight clip or faltering of tone just before the note completely stops. that's the foundation of the metal vocal sound.
as you do this, try prolonging that clip moment until you're effectively trying to speak at volume *through* this barrier that your throat is making. it will sound harsher and harsher until you'll eventually recognise a familiar tone.
be aware though, the first number of times, i guarantee you, you will both a) be in quite a lot of discomfort and b) sound like a total idiot.
after a while, you'll be able to speak at volume through the clip sound (or barrier). if you're using your normal talking tone of voice, this will be your mid range metal vocal. get used to it, then you can start moving onto other areas of tone, for instance how muhammed uses the kind of cavernous sound in lower vocals (this is found through a specific shape being made with the jaw and initial throat and larynx area, passing resonance back almost as far as the trachea) or the much higher sounds similar to most black metal singers, again a very different technique but all coming from the same origin.
if you've found this at all useful and got any results with it or found that i'm not talking complete shit, let me know and i'll gladly point you further towards other techniques.
H
(examples of what i've managed to reach vocally can be found on the link in my signature, although it's by no means the extent of my range)
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the exercises in question are on diaphragmatic breathing, as detailed best in the alexander technique or feldenchrist. do look up anything on either. a quick summary would be to stand up, imagining that the back of your head is being pulled upwards and back by a string attached to where your spine meets your skull, then breathe in but don't move your ribs, use only your stomach.
so, you breathe in, your stomach ‘inflates’, you breathe out by pushing that air back out with your stomach. this is actually your diaphragm controlling your breathing and is the most efficient way to conserve and use oxygen. if you use your ribcage, it's called clavicular breathing and is nowhere near as good.
the barrier that you're hoping to break through will only be achieved being able to use your voice at high volumes, don't think you can do it quietly at home. the reason you've been doing the breathy technique is because you can do it without it being intrusive, volume-wise.
push hard man. all of this metal singing is actually something which isn't great for the voice and chords, but i'm assuming you've accepted this in wanting to pursue it.
once you're able to recognise a rasped shout that's similar in sound to early max cavalera, you know you've broken through and will then mean you can move onto death and black styles.
if you can dude, record where you are now so we can get a clearer idea.
good luck
H
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Dont use your throat, use your diaphragm, and DONT CUP THE MIC!!!
Well, about the diaphragm question, you have to use it to breath, your voice has to come from your guts! If you keep singing with your throat for about 10 minutes it will hurt a lot!!!
Great bands with great voices? Necrophagist (of course)!, Monstrosity and Death.
like everyone else has said push from the diaphragm, you'll sustain longer, sound “fuller” and not get as tired.
your throat doesn't have to hurt at all…
if you wanna do deep growling, it should be possible without your throat getting sore or something.
to give you an example, on the BT tour we did 30 shows in a row, where i was growlin 30 min every day and it didnt affect my voice in any way.
it's a matter of technique I guess, but don't ask me how it's done as I dont know.
good luck
I've been working on growling lately and earlier in the post he was talking about your false vocal chords. To find out if you are using your diaphragm look at whether or not your stomach is moving in and out or your chest.
If you use your diaphragm your STOMACH should. Force out the air a little harder and it will cause a vibration that leaves your throat pain free. I'll upload an EXCELLENT tutorial. I learned from the ways I am telling you hear and can be heard over quite a few people and can only do it at a decent volume. I have just gotten fairly low and can do black metal voices as well. It comes from the shape of your mouth and constriction of your wind pipe.
ok, so i'm not going to tread on muhammed's toes with this, and certainly it is possible that you can harden yourself to it enough to not *perceivably* take effect from extensive use, fact it that on a biological level you ARE doing something that in essence harms the larynx and voice box in some way.
if you're still struggling coming to terms with that, please by all means go and refer to *any* book on correct vocal technique, most prominently ‘voice and the actor’ by cicely berry which covers many peripheral techniques on top of correct vocal form.
all of them will tell you that in order to create clear tone and correct maintenance of the vocal chords during increased volume speech of singing, it's done so with the false vocal folds as clear out of the way as possible.
what i'm saying here is that yes, you can sing like muhammed every night for 30 days and not ‘feel’ a problem, and indeed i've done similar tours and found that i've developed more resistance and a faster recovery time the more i performed, but bear in mind that muhammed is using predominantly two areas of tone, other singers use more, some less.
please don't get me wrong here, i'm not saying you shouldn't do it or that you'll get cance in minutes, it's simply that i come from a family of actors who have all at some point in their lives sustained injury for pushing their voices where they shouldn't have gone.
some trade facts for you - steven tyler from aerosmith has laser treatment almost every year to correct nodule development on his vocal chords. my father's stage career was all but ended for the same reason. jesse lynch, the first singer of killswitch engage, had to bow out for similar reasons.
to draw a comparison - my bassist's husband has been playing in a band for something like 12 years now and has never used ear protection, he went to get tested the other day and he's apparently got better hearing than most people 15 years younger than him. my guitarist has developed tinnitus after something like 4 years of solid gigging and all of that has been with protection. every person's body is different, if muhammed never feels pain, and i do occasionally, you make your assumption to be somewhere inbetween.
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b - Compress the microphone so you don't have to strain your voice by trying to be loud so you can hear yourself. And an sm58 is FINE for these types of vocals, I mean, a shitty karaoke mic would be as well. I mean, think about it, your range is going to be “grr, uuurgh, meep, and oink” basically.
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ok, so i'm not going to tread on muhammed's toes with this, and certainly it is possible that you can harden yourself to it enough to not *perceivably* take effect from extensive use, fact it that on a biological level you ARE doing something that in essence harms the larynx and voice box in some way.
Wrong.
Danish voice researcher/vocal instructor Cathrine Sadolin put out a book a few years ago with a basic fundamental system for the use of the voice with which, as they say it, it is possible to produce ALL sounds in a healthy manner. And yes, that does include death metal growls. There's even a short chapter in her book about growling.
So according to her, it *is* possible to growl in a healthy manner. Don't get me wrong, it's certainly easy to destry a voice too, but with proper technique you won't damage yourself.
Growlers can also use this book since it describes what really happens in out body while singing, how to use different effects like distortion and growling, and includes chapters on proper voice care and repairing a hoarse voice.
Very good book. It's been called a bible for singers. Costs 65 $.
http://www.sadolin.net/
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